Monday, July 20, 2020

Women in the Church

Five days ago, I posted an article about an important decision made in the Roman Catholic Church in 1870. This article is about an action of the Catholic Pope 100 years later, as Pope Paul VI announced in July 1970 that he was going to name Teresa of Ávila the first female Doctor of the Church. 
Teresa of Ávila (1515~82) 
Women Doctors of the Church?
“Doctor of the Church” is a title given by the Roman Catholic Church to saints recognized as having made a significant contribution to theology or doctrine through their research, study, or writing.
Up until 1970, there had been thirty named as Doctors of the Church. The first four, so designated in 1298, were Ambrose (340~397), Jerome (c.343~420), Augustine of Hippo (354~430), and Gregory the Great (540~604).
Over the next 672 years, twenty-six other men were similarly declared as Doctors of the Church. But then on September 27, 1970, Pope Paul VI declared Teresa of Ávila (1515~82) the first female Doctor of the Church. Just a week later, Catherine of Siena (1347~80) was also so designated.
Since then four more Doctors have been added to the list, and two of them are women: Thérèse of Lisieux (1873~97) and Hildegard of Bingen (1098~1179).
In spite of this high recognition of four outstanding women of the past, though, the Roman Catholic Church still does not permit women to be ordained as priests.
Women Pastors in the Churches?
Before 1970, hardly any Southern Baptist (SB) women had become preachers/pastors. During the time I was a graduate student at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, though, in 1964 Addie Davis (1917~2005) was ordained in an SB church in North Carolina.
Other Protestant denominations had ordained women much sooner. For example, Anna Howard Shaw was ordained by the Methodist Church way back in 1880, and women were similarly ordained by the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) in 1888.
According to this 10/18 Christian Century article, at seminaries and divinity schools affiliated with mainline churches, women have been about half of M.Div. students since 1998—but are still only 27 percent of pastors in congregations.
The church that June and I are members of belongs to the Western District Conference of Mennonite Church USA. An Aug. 201article in Mennonite World Review reports, “Today, 40 of Western District’s 85 active pastors are women.” This includes Ruth Harder, who has been June’s and my pastor for the past six years—and a fine pastor she is!
My Experience with Women Pastors
Long before being a member of a church with a woman pastor here in the U.S., from the early 1980s I began to have more and more female students in the seminary classes I taught in Japan. Many of them went on to become pastors in Japan Baptist Convention churches.
One of my students was Okamura Naoko-san. While a student, she began attending the Fukuoka International Church, of which I was the founding pastor, and then after graduation she became the assistant pastor. A few years later she became my co-pastor, and that worked out well.
It was my privilege to preach Okamura-sensei’s ordination sermon. And it was partly because of that close relationship with a woman pastor that June and I could not conscientiously sign the statement that we would work “in accordance with and not contrary to” Baptist Faith & Message, 2000.
That historic doctrinal statement of Southern Baptists as revised in 2000 stipulated that women should not serve as pastors. Our refusal to sign our agreement with that statement led to our being unilaterally placed on retirement status in 2003 by the International Mission Board of the SBC.
The Catholic Church, in spite of now having four female Doctors of the Church, and the Southern Baptist Convention since 2000 are, by far, the largest Christian churches/denominations that do not ordain women.
What a shame!

29 comments:

  1. Thinking Friend Eric Dollard in Chicago was the first to respond to this blog post:

    "Thanks, Leroy, for bringing up this issue.

    "Ever since my father convinced me in 1970 that women should be ordained, I have been a strong supporter of women in the clergy--and, as you point out, their numbers are increasing. Wicker Park Lutheran Church is a training congregation for interns, who generally serve for one year from one summer to the next. They are given the title of 'vicar.' Since 2017, we have had four interns, three of which are women: Bridget, who has a beautiful singing voice; Sarah; and Paisley, whose internship ended yesterday, We are now receiving a new intern, Bethany, obviously another woman. The lone male is Alex, who served only as a summer intern. All of these interns, especially the women, have impressed me with their poise and commitment.

    Paisley is a lesbian and openly so. In one of her sermons, she described her experiences in 'coming out'; it was a courageous sermon and I admire her for it."

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    1. Thanks Eric, as always, for your pertinent comments.

      For a long time, Christian churches (especially in the US South) upheld slavery. Now, thankfully, most don't.

      Then for a long time, most Christian denominations opposed women in ministry. Now, thankfully, except for the RCC and the SBC, most don't.

      The biggest area of controversy now is over the ordination of LGBTQ individuals. It sounds as if your Lutheran Church would be OK with that, and I am happy they/you are.

      Rainbow [so named because of the street on which it was first located] Mennonite Church that June and I are members of would be accepting/approving of ordaining a qualified LGBTQ person, although there is still considerable opposition from more conservative Mennonites. In December 2016, Thelda Good was ordained in Denver, the first time an openly LGBTQ individual was been ordained in Mennonite Church USA.

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    2. In a subsequent email, Eric wrote,

      "The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) had ordained gay persons for a number of years, as long as they remained chaste, but recently, with the legalization of gay marriage, gay clergy are now allowed to have same sex partners. The ELCA lost a number of congregations and members because of that decision. The pastor at Wicker Park Lutheran is gay and he has a same sex partner; he is one of the most outstanding pastors I have ever encountered, which is one reason why he has been entrusted with training seminary interns."

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    3. Thanks for sharing this, Eric.

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  2. I certainly didn't write of my personal experience seeking praise, but I appreciate these affirming words of Thinking Friend Glenn Hinson in Kentucky:

    "I commend you and June for your integrity and courage, Leroy. You deserve to be honored for that. Jesus would have approved. Look at the number of women who were among his disciples!"

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  3. Thanks for this post. I too find it rather ironic that there are 4 RC women doctors of the church, plus, in our day, numerous RC women scholars with Ph.D.s, and M.Div.s, yet they adamantly refuse to ordain women. Like you, I too have served in team ministry with my wife who is an ordained Lutheran pastor. In the seminary that we both graduated from, for several years now, usually about half of the students are women, we've also had women bishops, our present National Bishop is a woman.

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    1. Thanks for sharing this, my Lutheran friend (and I don't like to refer to you as "Dim Lamp"). And thanks for sharing this about your wife, which I did not know, and about the Presiding Bishop of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.

      Thanks to you, I learned that Elizabeth A. Eaton was elected to serve as the ELCA presiding bishop in 2013 and re-elected at the 2019 ELCA Churchwide Assembly. I also learned that she was ordained in 1981.

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    2. I was unaware that my Lutheran friend who commented above is in Canada and in the Canadian Lutheran Church, not the ELCA; please see his correction farther down.

      Sorry for this incorrect information in my previous reply.

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  4. Our human ability to rationalize around the truth is amazing. Perhaps the most striking example in recent history was the way Fred Phelps rationalized around the teachings of Jesus by discovering that in the Bible God hates more often that God loves. Then again, perhaps we should count when talking about our duty to the poor, or the doctrine of abortion. It does say "Thou shalt not abort!" in there somewhere, doesn't it? (Not!)

    The very first known canonization of any of the Bible is recorded in 2 Kings 22. The most perfect king in all of Israel, Josiah, received an unknown text just found in the Jerusalem temple. Was it authentic? He sent his cabinet to ask of the prophet Huldah what he should do. Her reply in verses 15 and 16 begins with the words, "Thus says the LORD, the God of Israel: Tell the man who sent you to me, Thus says the LORD, ..." And so, our scholars tell us, we got Deuteronomy in the Bible. Now I suppose that it could be argued this does not prove that women should have higher authority than this, but if it is just ordering kings and priests around concerning the Word of the LORD, we still hear the voice of Huldah.

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    1. Craig, thanks for sharing this little-known and much-overlooked story of the prophet Huldah. Somehow the opponents of women in ministry don't say much about her.

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  5. I don`t think it`s a matter of IF they are Good or qualified, when The Bible tells us that GOD is Not a respecter of persons and he sees Everyone as equal in GOD`s eyes.

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  6. My spouse, Candace Burch Wilson, was ordained in 1982 by her home church [SBC].
    She has served as an associate pastor or minister in United Methodist [13yrs] and Christian Church (Disciple of Christ) [13yrs] congregations, and now is Associate Pastor for Music and Adult Ministry in a post–SBC split Baptist congregation [CBF/SBC]. She still has ministerial standing with the Disciples.

    It has been my observation that the Methodist and Disciples congregations affirmed her as a ministry leader in great measure [Louisville, KY]. Our North Carolina Baptist congregation is not nearly as affirming. I am sure that is not news to you or your readers!

    In our Covid-19 world she is responsible for our Zoom Worship. I am immensely proud of her! We will see how the congregation responds to her new preaching presence. Please keep us in your thoughts as the congregation continues to wrestle with its understanding of church leadership and ministry.

    Thanks Leroy. Shalom, Dick

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    1. Thanks, Dick, for sharing this about your wife being ordained. I didn't know (or didn't remember) that.

      You mentioned a split (CBF/SBC) congregation where your wife is now. Several years ago it became impossible for there to be such congregations here in Missouri. If a church wanted to be aligned with the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship, they were not longer able to be a part of the Missouri [SBC] Baptist Convention (MBC). The Second Baptist Church here in Liberty (Mo.), where my wife and I were members from 2005 to 2012, was dismissed from the MBC in 2001 because of their stance on women in ministry.

      As you know the CBF has been positive about women ministers from its inception, although the small number of churches and the many former Southern Baptist male pastors needing jobs has meant that not many women have actually become head pastors, although some have.

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  7. Leroy:
    Thank you for the well-worded affirmation of women in ministry. I applaud you for that. I stand in awe of the bravery of these ladies who place the calling of God in their lives above popularity, and often experience ridicule. God bless every one of them! That is one of two wedge issues that I believe will continue to keep moderate and fundamentalist Southern Baptist from ever merging. I don't understand why the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship is reluctant to declare themselves as a denomination. I have been corresponding with them about that. I revised and enlarged my recent monograph on my experience growing up in fundamentalism and had it published in booklet form--How the Fundamentalist Grinch Stole the SBC. I mailed you and about 35 other family and friends a copy. Thanks again for the fine article.


    Truett Baker

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    1. Thanks, Truett, for your comments--and for sending me your new publication; I look forward to receiving, and to reading, it.

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  8. Thinking Friend Virginia Belk in New Mexico started her email about this blog post with these words:

    "I agree, What a pity! or 'It's a cryin' shame!', as folks said where I grew up."

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  9. I appreciate what Thinking Friend Les Hill, a retired SB educational missionary who now lives in Kentucky, wrote. He shared about formerly being against women in ministry, then he said,

    "Several years later while teaching at Southwestern on furlough, Dr. Gordon Fee presented a week of lectures on biblical interpretation. He noted that Paul wrote to solve local church problems without necessarily being universal in practice and also he wrote universal truths. We need to learn the nature of each–-not necessarily easy to do. Believing his views significant, I’ve come to what I believe are appropriate positions including freedom to recognize the need to accept women in ministry."

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    1. Thanks for sharing your change of perspective on this, Les. What you heard from Dr. Fee is similar to what I wrote about this in Chapter Eight of my book "Fed Up with Fundamentalism."

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  10. A Thinking Friend in Texas wrote,

    "Leroy, so sorry about your forced retirement. Question: Were your associate minister, and other women ordained prior to the 2000 decree, 'defrocked?' or 'grandmothered'?

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    1. If the question about the associate minister, and then co-pastor, I had in Japan, let me state clearly that women in ministry has not been a problem in the Japan Baptist Convention (JBC). Kazuko Adachi was a women who was baptized at the Fukuoka International Church when Okamura-sensei and I were co-pastors there. She later went to seminary and just three or four years ago was called as pastor of a Baptist church near Tokyo and has happily served there since.

      The JBC grew out of the work of Southern Baptist missionaries in Japan, but decades ago it became completely independent of the SBC and its Foreign, then International, Mission Board. If my wife and I had remained in Japan, we would doubtlessly still be Baptists. The Baptists in Japan are more like the Mennonite church we are members of now than are most Southern Baptist churches in the U.S.

      As for Southern Baptist women missionaries, or those who always lived in the U.S., who have been ordained, I am not aware that any have been "defrocked," but those who wanted to remain in ministry, as many did, left the SBC and became members of the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship or non-Baptist denominations that accepted women ministers.

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  11. I just now received an email with these pertinent comments from Thinking Friend Michael Olmsted in Springfield, Mo.:

    "An ongoing threat to many of our societal failures is a culture that demands someone be
    at the top of the power mountain. We want a clear line of authority in every level of our culture, and, no surprise the idea of 'church' as a place where there is order, tradition, and strong leadership. Hardly a WOMAN'S place!

    "Jesus' words and example point us to the life shaping pattern of compassion, love, equality in the eyes of God for all people ... shaped by grace. Even in the gender strict patterns of the first century Jesus offered an obvious gender neutral perspective for God's people: life built on grace, respect, integrity, compassion, kindness, and freedom to become whole in God's gift of life. The church continues to offer the same flawed model of life roles shaped by gender bias."

    And we wonder why organized religion is losing its influence in 2020!"

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    1. Thanks for sharing your significant comments, Michael. While by no means the only nor perhaps even the main reason, the rejection of women as priests/pastors is one of the reason for the decline of membership in the (USAmerican) Catholic Church and the Southern Baptist Convention.

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  12. Hello again Leroy. Actually I'm a Canadian, and was referring in my comment above to our denomination, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Canada, and our present National Bishop, Rev. Susan Johnson. I apologize for seeming to have mislead you re ELCA, although there are similarities re women clergy in both denominations, our ELCIC is a much smaller denomination.

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    1. Thanks, friend, for the correction. I knew you were Lutheran but did not know (or remember) that you are Canadian. I find it interesting, and significant, that the top administrative leader of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in Canada as well as in the U.S. are women.

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  13. In the late 1970's I served a mission church (SBC) in northern Arizona. Churches were few and far in between, but the population was growing. Local areas were begging for new church plants, but no men were applying for mission pastoral positions. Women were. The Home Mission Board (now North American Mission Board) refused to provide pastoral support for a woman candidate. I haven't supported the SBC Annie Armstrong Offering for home missions since. The Church as a whole and the SBC in particular have lost many opportunities for advancement of the Kingdom because of these decisions.

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    1. Thanks, Tom for writing about your experience and thought regarding women in ministry. Knowing you have long worked with Southern Baptists in North Carolina, I wondered what you thought about this matter and was happy to about your position.

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  14. Since this is not only a polity, or academic issue to me, let me share my story. I am fortunate to have avoided a lot of the hostility and opposition often confronted by women seeking ordination in the era that I did. I was ordained in 1981 by my home church in rural Georgia, a county-seat First Baptist Church with SBC, on my birthday. By 1981 the pastor of the church was aligned with the fundamentalist swing of the denomination, although that was not the case while I was growing up in the church. As I was wrapping up seminary education, I approached the church about ordination. The fundamentalist pastor dutifully took my request to the deacons, perhaps assuming that the request could be dispensed with quickly. On the board of deacons, all male, were my father, my uncle, and the president of the local college, the latter making the motion that the church proceed with ordination. My father was a long time in coming around to the idea of my preaching, but when he did, he was my staunchest supporter and the one that was the most hurt by my termination by the SBC. The church body also approved, probably on the grounds of "It's Lydia. We know her. If she says God has called her to ministry, then we have to ordain her!" In reality, I was already headed to Japan for ministry, and the church no doubt felt quite comfortable sending me to "the mission field" with no possibility in the near future that I would want to preach in Middle Georgia. The ordination council was also quite affirming, while asking me for a justification of women in ministry. Not to the ordination council, but I have been known to justify my ministry as a woman by suggesting that if the person did not want me to preach the gospel, then perhaps they should go preach in Japanese. People need the gospel, right? I arrived in Japan proclaiming that it was "heaven," because women pastors were at least in principle accepted in the Japanese denomination and there are no pronouns for God in Japanese. I was quickly reminded that while women can be ordained, they have a hard time finding a church. Although I feel fortunate, I also know that there are 3 genders in Japan: male, female, and foreign female.
    In the church, the one who serves in the kitchen should be the one who serves the Lord's Supper.

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    1. Thanks for sharing some of your story, Lydia. I thought about you also when I was working on this article, for I knew you were ordained as a Southern Baptist woman. I didn't know the details surrounding the decision of your rural Georgia church related to your ordination.

      I appreciate you mentioning the difficulty of Japanese women finding churches to serve even though there is general affirmation of their "right" to be pastors. I mentioned Adachi-sensei in a comment above; it was several years after her graduation from seminary that she found a church who would call her as pastor. And I don't know of any of the larger churches in the Japan Baptist Convention who have called a women as head pastor. Still, there are several churches in the JBC who have women as the main pastor and others who are co-pastors or serving as ministers in other ways.

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    2. For centuries the Orthodox branch of the Church had deaconesses, mostly nuns, who served in intimate situations where a man could not go. That ended a couple of centuries back. There is a fresh move to revive to role of deaconess within Orthodoxy. Unlike Deacons, there is not a road to the Presbytery or Episcopate.

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