Friday, January 10, 2025

Are There Things God Can’t Do?

Thanks to my good friend Fred Herren, last year I became acquainted with theologian Thomas Jay Oord. God Can’t (2019) is the only one of his many books that I have read in its entirety, and initially I was “put off” by the book’s title. After reading it, though, I mainly agreed with Oord’s main points. 

Thomas Jay Oord was long a pastor and theologian in the Church of the Nazarene. Born and raised in Washington state, Oord (b. 1965) graduated from Northwest Nazarene College (now University, NNU) in Idaho in 1988.

After serving as a pastor of a Nazarene church for several years in Washington state, he enrolled in Nazarene Theological Seminary in Kansas City, graduating with a Master of Divinity. While in seminary, he was a pastor in nearby Lenexa, Kansas.

After earning his Ph.D. degree at Claremont Graduate University in California, he taught theology at Eastern Nazarene College in Massachusetts and then for sixteen years taught at his alma mater (NNU). Since 2020, Oord has been directing doctoral programs of the online Northwind Theological Seminary.*1

God Can’t, Oord’s thought-provoking book, is about theodicy, the attempt to resolve the problem of evil that arises when all power and all goodness are simultaneously ascribed to God. If God can prevent all evil, why doesn’t a loving God do that? That is a basic problem for traditional theology.

Oord explains his reason for writing God Can’t: “I wrote this book for victims of evil, survivors, and those who endure senseless suffering. I wrote it for the wounded and broken who have trouble believing in God, are confused, or have given up faith altogether” (3).

His book, though, is also of considerable help for all of us who know people who have trouble believing in God's existence because of the suffering in their own lives or that which they see starkly in the world around them.

Oord insists that “God loves us all, all the time.” He goes on to assert, “Every idea I advocate in this book assumes God is loving” (11-12). This leads him to reject belief in God’s omnipotence and to emphasize what he terms God’s amipotence.*2

According to Oord, “God’s nature is uncontrolling love.” Thus, “God’s love is inherently uncontrolling” (26). That is why God “can’t prevent evil singlehandedly. God’s love governs what God can do” (27). So, here is Oord’s “Belief #1”: “God Can’t Prevent Evil Singlehandedly” (44).*3

How could God be considered all-loving if God could unilaterally prevent evil but didn’t do so? By substituting amipotence for omnipotence, though, Oord concludes, “I can whole-heartedly adore my uncontrolling Creator, knowing God neither causes nor allows the evil I’ve experienced or know” (183).

And then he leaves these final words: “The Lover of the Universe empowers and inspires us to live lives of love. Let’s cooperate with this uncontrolling God of love!” (186).

Much more needs to be said about Oord’s challenging book, but I will mention just one more important thing I realized afresh from reading it. Much of what Christians have said about prayer is based on an erroneous view of God. So often God is asked to do what an uncontrolling God cannot do.

Back in August 2016, I wrote about this in connection with reports that Jimmy Carter was “cancer free” after being diagnosed with cancer in the summer of 2015. I encourage you to (re-)read that post (here).

I realize more fully now that it is simply “wrong” to pray for God to heal anyone or to perform other “miraculous” deeds. Yes, I believe in prayer, but not prayers that seek to change God or to “beg” God to do things that God could not do.

So, yes, given the loving, noncontrolling nature of God, there are some/many things God can’t do. But rather than that decreasing our devotion to God, such realization should cause our faith in God to deepen and to strengthen our determination to work with God for the betterment of the world around us.

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*1 For more detailed information about Oord, see his website at https://ThomasJayOord.com. That site includes this recent news: “In 2024, Oord was taken to trial in the Church of the Nazarene for being queer affirming. The verdict was the removal of his ministerial license and membership in the denomination.” Last August, my friend Brian Kaylor interviewed Oord about his expulsion from the Church of the Nazarene. You can  hear that interview here.  

*2 In April 2023, Oord published a new book under the title The Death of Omnipotence and Birth of Amipotence. He coined the latter word, which means all-loving, to use in place of the former word, which means all-powerful. Christian theology has often talked about God as being omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent. Those are not biblical terms, however, and Oord firmly believes that the latter term should be replaced by his new term, amipotence.

*3 Oord’s other basic beliefs articulated in this book: #2, “God feels our pain”; #3, “God works to heal”; #4, “God squeezes good from bad”; and #5, “God needs our cooperation.”

Note: Thinking Friend Anton Jacobs reminded me that Rabbi Harold S. Kushner’s bestselling book When Bad Things Happen to Good People (1991) presents ideas quite similar to Oord’s. I read Kushner’s book back in the 1990s but didn’t remember that similarity while reading Oord, who does not mention Kushner. 

9 comments:

  1. Thank you Leroy and Happy New Year to fellow thinking friends! For some years I have thought that when we say God is omnipotent this is a philosopher's God, not the vulnerable God we see revealed in the life of Jesus in the Gospels. Jesus demonstrates relational power as he challenges the coercive power of the Roman Empire and its collaborators. Nonviolent resistance is about relational power.

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  2. There haven't been as many responses to today's blog post as I expected by now. But not long after 7 a.m. I did receive the following from local Thinking Friend Greg Brown:

    "Thanks for making me aware of this book. So Oord is throwing out 2000 year old claims about God’s omnipotence? For a long time this has been one of the definitional qualities of God. A pretty big revision."

    "It would appear his revision somewhat lines up with Process Theology. Both attempt to address ideas about God’s limits. For me the problem of evil remains unresolved."

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  3. And then about 30 minutes ago, I received an email from Bill Tammeus, the eminent Kansas City journalist:

    "At the bottom of my current blog post, I mention Oord and his recent book about God not being omnipotent, plus two follow up books, one of which I contributed to. Here's the link: https://bit.ly/40qsxEc

    "Interesting and challenging guy, Oord is."

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    1. The reference to Oord in Bill's Jan. 8 piece is at the very end, and includes the following statements about Oord and amipotence:

      "A little over a year ago, I reviewed here on the blog a book that challenged the idea that God is omnipotent. Thomas Jay Oord is the author of 'The Death of Omnipotence and Birth of Amipotence,' in which he argues that God, instead, is characterized by 'amipotence,' or complete love. Then Oord asked a bunch of folks, including me, to write a chapter in a book in which scholars and others (like me) would respond to the ideas in his book. So I did. Now that book is out (in two volumes). The volume in which you'll find my essay is called "Amipotence: Volume 2: Expansion and Application."

      The whole idea of denouncing the concept of an omnipotent God and favoring, by contrast, an amipotent God, is intriguing ...."

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    2. Local Thinking Friend Johan Tredoux also has an essay in the book Bill mentioned.

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  4. About five minutes ago, a local Thinking Friend sent an email pasted below in its entirety:

    "Where was God when our little Laura and the Claypool’s Laura were stricken by Leukemia. God’s love is endless, but he/she cannot do everything. My mental tangle of neurons has to work overtime in processing it. How wonderful it is when a devoted scholar does this work for me/us. And that you read it and shared it with us."

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    1. This TF and John Claypool, who was pastor of Crescent Hill Baptist Church in Louisville, suffered great pain when they both lost young daughters with the same name. Where was God during that painful time? Oord would say (in connection with his belief #2 in the third footnote above), God was right there, feeling the pain with them and giving them the strength to carry on--as they both did. But Oord would say, correctly I believe, that God, who is all-loving (amipotent) did not cause the leukemia, was not using it as some sort of test or lesson for the grieving parents, and as a noncontrolling God was not able to cure it by some sort of divine fiat.

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  5. Happy new year and I question that GOD can't do certain things and what about the Scripture in Philippines 4:13 that says that GOD CAN DO all Thunks?
    Also like it says in the book of James-we need Faith and after reading his Blog we certainly need to live by Faith!

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  6. The issue is too big for quick response, but he goes. 😊

    With apologies to Augustine:
    Without love-power we are not, without us love-power does not.
    I call this an aspirational commitment, not an ontological claim.

    Two quotes which guide my perspective:
    [E. Frank Tupper, *A Scandalous Providence* 1995.]
    “Without the story of Jesus I would not believe in God. Or more probably, God simply would not matter.” (p.19)
    “And what God has done in Jesus, God intends to do for all of us.” (p.438)
    “In the hope of Jesus we trust the God of love. (p.439)

    [George Burman Foster (1858 – 1918)]
    “Jesus is the best that we know, human or divine . . . the problem is not whether Jesus is as good as God is, but whether God is as good as Jesus is.”
    [I used this quote in response to your post of August 25, 2020. 😊]

    Shalom, Dick

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